"Is it a Church Or just a Function Hall?"

WORSHIPPERS at one of the state's largest hospital chapels have been ordered to get rid of crucifixes and Bibles and pull down religious pictures and symbols for fear of offending other religions.

It was in the early 90s when a similar incident occurred at Christmas Time within a large shopping complex in western Sydney, when a senior management person took it upon himself to ban a 'Nativity Scene' from the premises, for fear it would upset members of other religions within the community. Although not a knee bender myself, my first thoughts were, but this is first and fore most a Christian Country, and it certainly would not hold water in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, and the geezer I confronted, was from the western side of the Sub Continent. The stupid decision was overturned when others joined the fray.

The decision by Royal North Shore Hospital has outraged patients and their families, many of whom have turned to the chapel for comfort in their darkest hours.

Hospital managers ordered the ban on symbols of any kind because the chapel was increasingly being used by a number of different faiths.

But Mosman Mayor Dominic Lopez said angry patients were offended that the chapel no longer represented a holy place.

"I used to sit there and pray when my wife was dying of breast cancer and look at that cross," he said. "Now it is just a hall and the decision is bulls. . .. You either have a chapel or you don't. It's offensive to have a church or chapel and not have a cross in it."

Some hospital chaplains have been fighting the decision but recently lost their battle.

The hospital defended its decision to ban all Christian and non-Christian symbols, saying it was appropriate to appease all religions. Each faith is allowed to display their symbols during services but they must be taken down and stored out of sight afterwards.

But Islamic leaders last night stressed they would not have asked for Christian symbols to be removed. I am left wondering whether this is entirely true

NSW Health does not have a fixed policy on prayer rooms or hospital chapels.

Some two-bit bob bureaucrat has made the decision, just like when someone decided we couldn't sing Christmas carols anymore in schools.

Since 1968, visitors and patients of all faiths have been able to use the chapel. With its stained glass windows and timber ceiling, the prayer hall has been the perfect backdrop for weddings and other ceremonies.

Up until recently, a cross was visible at the front of the altar. A separate Muslim prayer space has been made in the chapel's loft.

The chapel is now best described as a multi-faith chapel where people from all of the miscellaneous branches of the faith industry may feel welcome.

The decision was made to display the symbols of each faith, for example the chapel's cross and Bible, during specific services and ceremonies only.

These important religious symbols are appropriately stored and used regularly.

99 percent of of the strife in our world today and in the past, stems from religious lunacy and in fighting, this is on the increase within Australia due to the post war arrival of Muslim hordes seemingly set on undermining the normally staid populace with their inhuman archaic beliefs. Mind you the most recent outburst from the Mick Archbishop Pell beggar's belief. It's so enlightening to hear those in the Celibate sector come forth with advice on sexual intercourse.


Vest said…
Return of the Prodigal icons.

JESUS rose from the dead on Easter Sunday. In Sydney, however, His resurrection came two days earlier.

All evidence of Christ was recently removed from Royal North Shore Hospital's chapel, in an ill-advised piece of politically correct pandering.

The decision was apparently taken to ensure that followers of other religions would not be offended. It subsequently emerged that followers of other religions were quite happy for the Christian icons to remain in place.

So yesterday, on Good Friday, the cross and a copy of the Bible were back in place on the chapel's altar. A pro-active Catholic priest, acting on his own initiative, decided to replace them.

By all accounts, staff and patients at the hospital are powerfully supportive of the move.

Now we await official reaction.

Given prevailing political moods, it isn't beyond expectations that the priest may find himself in a spot of trouble.

He might even become the first priest in Australian history to be challenged over the deeply controversial act of putting a Bible in a chapel.

We live in interesting times.
Jimmy said…
the historical reality dont matter

this Hippy talked of LOVE
He was anti religion

He revolted against the Jewish rituals

He was anti religion
Jimmy said…
I am Christian
u r Christian

vote for me
the polly tiesation of Religion

the British and the Portuguese sent missionnaires to convert them first
C A. USA said…
I notice your use of the term [Faith Industry] as likened to a form of business. Its a cliche you have used for some time, given the right springboard it could quite well appear in our dictionaries soon.
Jimmy said…
I like the term Faith Industry
it is apt

USA guys are great in Marketing.
they even created the OSHO brand after the Bhagwan died

now they are reaping in the big bucks
Jimmy said…
Jesus and Bhagwan and all the Gurus of India were never commercial

Now BIBLES are sold
and Bhagwad Gita by ISKCON, now another American Brand
Andrew B. ims@unwired said…
C)old Case #2 - writing without a keyboard

Ahoy there!

Does it still exist?

Is it conceivable in the year 2009 to write some text without using a keyboard?

The last time we wrote a significant amount of text with a pen seems centuries ago –
perhaps pens are still used at schools and other types of education?
Even though, a keyboard is not always that straightforward or handy.

With a mobile phone or PDA the keyboard is too small, those buttons aren't very
convenient either for someone with an impairment and then there are people
whose fingers are always in a tangle anyway, or as large as bananas.

Behold Dasher!

For all those situations where a keyboard is not so convenient, an application with
this name has been in development for several years, which allows text entry
without using a keyboard.

Instead of entering letters one by one, text processing with Dasher turns into
something that looks more like an arcade game; you navigate through a cloud of
letters and by an amazing good fortune, groups of letters appear that form into words.

You can find a good demonstration of this application at the web link below.

and from the second one you can download the software for numerous languages and
platforms and take your own test flight, sorry, text flight.

Will Dasher become something significant?

If you look at the latest developments on the official Dasher website you will have
to come to the conclusion that it seems to have stalled.

Why would Dasher still have a future?

Because the duo of 'keyboard and mouse' has increasing competition from 'gesture based control'.

The pen, eye-tracking systems, controlling with sound and even systems with 'mind control'
(controlled using thoughts) will certainly increase in interest and applications in the next few years.

So, Dasher may be an Old, but certainly not a Cold Case!

SO what you see on Star-Trek that Government bureaucracy want you to believe is science-fiction
is actually science-fact. Governments and their co-conspirators (Media Moguls) want you to live
in a controlled world, a world that you know and feel emotionally secure in. A world of the past.
(Most) People are afraid of change. (That's why society gas traditions) (it's an illusion of permenance)

Younger ones are not afraid of technological change or progress as they are born into it, and do not
know any different. To them, 'it is' normal.

Vest himself once thought (until he knew better) that a computer was a glorified typewriter.
He now knows it is much more than a typewriter could ever be.
Making that step forward prevented him from becoming a dinosaur.
(Had that happened, it would have been a tragedy, for a man with adventure in his blood)

Anonymous said…
Political Correctness going mad, bad and stupid again. Make it an empty vessel (a mere Hall) and that's exactly what it will become. Why bother having a pretend Chapel. It is so small minded as to be unbelievable.
Jimmy said…
I am bored Andy
give us another one

but not like dis one
dis one was sad
Jimmy said…
A is here ... A is here ... A is here

now is the time Andy
Jimmy said…
the LOVE, the PASSION, and the JOY of Easter, a promise of a NEW Life

Happy Easter
Rose, VEST and all the freaks in here
Jimmy said…
You may ask me
how I know my lord is real
You may doubt the things I say
and doubt the way I feel

But I know he’s real today
he’ll always be
I can feel his hand in mine
and that’s enough for me
Kate...fb said…
Oi Vesty,mum wants to know if you are the guy in the telegraph sunday puzzles about the pommie politiians - its on page 113, Luvsya Kate xxx
Vest said…
Kate: I had a dekko - Could be, you never know it might even be maybe,xxx.
Vest said…
Jimmy: Is Kate An Atheist, you ask.

Dun Fink so mate. she wasn't the last time I looked.
Chris B....r said…
Subject: FW: Our friend the lawyer

Just in case you know a lawyer

One afternoon a lawyer was riding in his limousine when he saw two
Men along the roadside eating grass.

Disturbed, he ordered his driver to stop and he got out to

He asked one man, 'Why are you eating grass?'

'We don't have any money for food,' the poor man replied. 'We
Have to eat grass.'

'Well, then, you can come with me to my house and I'll feed you,' the
Lawyer said.

'But sir, I have a wife and two children with me. They are over
There, under that tree.'

'Bring them along,' the lawyer replied.

Turning to the other poor man he stated, 'You come with us, also.'

The second man, in a pitiful voice, then said, 'But sir, I also have
a wife and SIX children with me!'

'Bring them all, as well,' the lawyer answered.

They all entered the car, which was no easy task, even for a car as
Large as the limousine was.

Once underway, one of the poor fellows turned to the lawyer and said,
'Sir, you are too kind.'

'Thank you for taking all of us with you.'

The lawyer replied, 'Glad to do it.

'You'll really love my place.

'The grass is almost a foot high'

gordon the baker. said…
Mr Vest.Dont tell me this isn't you or I lose ten bucks to zed.

Puzzles- Sunday's Best. page 113. Sydney Sunday Telegraph April 12.

General Knowledge: Reader Question of the week.

QUESTION. Two Post - War (WW2) British politicians in office at the same time, plus one of their wives, shared given names, male and female versions. Name
the wife and the two Politicians.

- Thanks to Leslie Bowyer of Budgewoi, NSW, we've got our Best submission yet in the readers trivia Question.

Answer; Conservative: Clementine Churchill ( wife of Sir Winston Churchill).

Labour: Clement Attlee.

Liberal; Clement Davies.
Jimmy said…

who da Duck is God?

God is an atheist
- Vest
graeme said…
Wish I could think so quickly. . . .

A man boarded a plane with 6 kids. After
They got settled in their
Seats a woman sitting across the aisle
From him leaned over to him
And asked, 'Are all of those kids yours?'

He replied, 'No. I work for a condom Company. These are customer complaints.
Jimmy said…
I bet Wally is one of dem complaints
Vest said…
Gordon tell Zed he got it wrong, Ok.
deuitkom said…
Interesting article about dasher? Looks a bit like published by elektor/iTRIXX. not?

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