Wednesday, 29 August 2012

Apple puts the Bite on Samsung's Bottom line.

Apple has submitted a list of eight Samsung products it wants pulled from the shelves and banned from the U/S Market.
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The move came after a jury found Samsung copied designs for the iPhone and iPad.
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The products on the hit list are the Galaxy S4G, galaxyS2 AT&T, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S2 T Mobile,
Galaxy S2Epic 4C,Galaxy S Showcase, Droid Charge and Galaxy Prevail..
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Apple claimed that Samsung's smartphones and tablets "slavishly copied" i Phones and i Pads.
Samsung countered that apple used its wireless technology without proper compensation.
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A jury last week unanimously agreed with Apple and ordered Samsung to pay $A963 Million.
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Apple have come a long way since I had dealings with them in the early eighties.. A branch of Apple opened in the main street of Penrith in NSW Australia. The premises set my Cleaning Business quite a challenge, ( Posh Cleaning Services Company, Now defunct and sold off). but as usual it was completed satisfactorily. However, eradicating the lingering odours of the former Fish & Chip Shop was a bit of a worry.
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Vest back soon..... Remember, Anything you are good at contributes to happiness.


History.  Aug  29 1945.  Ships of the US and  British Fleets , enter Tokyo Bay. Vest not forget.

Tuesday, 28 August 2012

Railcorp will train City Rail Station Announcers to speak proper Ozstrayan..

The main Problem for most Rail travelers is the comprehension of verbal instruction meted out by persons other than those born in Australia whose interpretation  and usage of the spoken word can be mystifying to most rail passengers.
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For donkey's years, frustrated passengers on most of NSW Aus railway system have shaken their heads and rolled their eyes in disbelief at the cross Greco-Ity-Turk strine dialect spewing from train and station loudspeakers by guards and station staff.
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The NSW Govt Fix the rail system will include training! Rail corp staff at a special school where they will learn how to speak correctly so train commuters  can understand them .
 Transport Minister Gladys *BEREJIKLIAN stated,"More than 300 staff will attend the initial training program"..* wonder where she hails from?

Excerpt from Memoirs 1971 Aug.
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It was a pleasant day so we decided to take the train into town We had recently arrived as migrants from the U/K, and wished to take a break from the Hostel. On arrival at Leightonfield Station a recently arrived migrant? announced the destination for the next train in a strange garbled form of strine, a badly spoken form of Aussie English. Two old geezers sitting close by noticed that I was having difficulty understanding the announcement. Then one of them said, " when youse bin ere a bit more sport, you'll learn English'.
." I looked him squarely in the eye and replied, "Now isn't that nice to know , you silly old fart.". One of our boys said, "Daddy - you're being rude again.
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Back soon Vest.
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PS ......Seems Ms Gladys Berejiklian is of Armenian decent, Born Sydney 1970.
Lets hope she has the same financial acumen as the late 'Mr Five percent' Nubar Gulbenkian.

Saturday, 25 August 2012

The Canary in your Kitchen.

The Canary in Your Kitchen

When the link between aluminum and Alzheimer's hit the news, I flashed back to the many mornings my mother scrambled eggs in her well-worn aluminum pans and shook my head.

Then, the news about Teflon hit, as pet birds dropped like flies when frying pans reached a certain temperature and let off a noxious gas deadly to our feathered friends. And as any miner will tell you, this doesn't bode well for your safety, either.

Unfortunately, there is no definitive answer to the cookware safety question. Rather, there is a list of pros, cons and considerations.

Here is an update on how those aluminum concerns panned out (sorry - couldn't help myself!), what to do about Teflon, and what I recommend you use instead…
It's really not fair.

You go through so much effort to choose healthy food, maybe even buy organic… and then, you've got to worry about your cookware, too!

And to top it off, there are no clear-cut answers, and plenty of opinions to go around.

Let's look at aluminum first. It turns out that Alzheimer's is a much more complex disease than we originally thought, and aluminum is not the cause, and may not even be a significant factor.

However, the research does show aluminum levels are extraordinarily high in many of us, partly because we get it from so many environmental sources.

And at high levels, it can be toxic and cause numerous health problems.

So as a result of the bad press, manufacturers introduced anodized aluminum cookware as a safer alternative. An electrochemical process seals the aluminum. And that ensures it won't leech out into food, even at high temperatures. Plus, it's a non-stick, scratch-resistant cooking surface, which is what most cooks want. This adaptation is considered generally safe, but there isn't a lot of research to back up safety claims.

Next, you've got Teflon, the non-stick coating for cookware known by chemists as polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE). There are actual bird death diaries online with heartbreaking accounts of birds dying when Teflon-coated cookware is overheated.

And not all accounts seem reliable (I just read one with 40 birds flying loose around the house). But the problem here is self-evident.

According to the Environmental Working Group, a pan can "reach 700 degrees Fahrenheit in just 3-5 minutes, releasing 15 toxic gases and chemicals, including two carcinogens."

Now, that's not just a bird killer, that's a people-killer.

So while the levels may be considered "safe" by the regulating bodies, the recommendation is that you take a cue from miners… If the birds are biting the dust, you can't be far behind.

I'd recommend you ditch the Teflon. And if you haven't by 2015, DuPont is going to do it for you. They've announced plans to phase out sales of Teflon by then.

In the wake of the Teflon controversy, a new non-stick option is on the market called Thermolon, which is often referred to as Green Pan. It's being marketed as an Eco-friendly cookware option. It uses nanotechnology and silicon, so it doesn't have the same risks as Teflon. And while it is relatively new – with a limited track record in the research department – it is considered safe for birds.

Which is a step in the right direction.

But personally, I'm going to wait for more data. So, if you need a workout plan… and a way to cook, there is always cast iron cookware.

Seriously, the weight of these can be a problem if you have any kind of arthritis in the hands or wrists, as they can be quite heavy. But otherwise, they are a relatively healthy option. Yes, the iron will leech into your food. And for most people, this isn't a problem.

But, for small children and post-menopausal women – or anyone who already has a lot of iron in their diet – cooking with cast iron may not be the best choice.

Stainless steel is another possible option to consider. It contains a mixture of metals, such as nickel, chromium, molybdenum, and yes, sometimes aluminum. The problem is you never quite know what the mixture is, and whether or not it might be harmful. If you're going to go with stainless steel cookware, be sure it is high-grade surgical steel. It will cost you more… but it's worth it.

And last but not least…
Have you ever wondered why glass is used for laboratory testing most often? Because it's non-porous, does not react with its contents, and can sustain high temperatures if it's the right thickness.

Which makes it perfect for cookware, too.

Ceramic, stoneware and enameled cookware share some of the same qualities, and now that lead is no longer used to process these materials, they're considered safe.

The main reason many people shy away from glass and ceramic cookware is durability. Glass and ceramic can break. And broken glass is definitely not the safest or most desirable kitchen item!

However, glass and ceramic cookware is making a comeback, as is stoneware, which is largely used in the over rather than on the stovetop. And as far as health and safety, they're the best options for my money. Just be sure they are lead-free, and the right heat resistance for your intended use when you make your purchase.

Only you know your cooking needs and preferences.

A chef-level cook is likely to have very strong opinions about which type of cookware makes a better omelet. And an environmentalist will have an opinion about the material. And a bird lover would like to still have a bird – singing in its cage – by the end of the meal.

But at least knowing the pros and cons of each option helps you make an educated decision, based on your needs and preferences.

Now, when they make cookware that makes dinner for you, it better be safe and healthy to use… because that's the one most of us are waiting for!
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The best is yet to be..... Vest.... Back later.

 
 

Thursday, 23 August 2012

Poverty in the Western World, Mindless out of control spending.

With the exception of out of control illness where in most cases an extra payment is made in order to provide a source of regulation to assist  a family unit, most poverty at family level is caused by sheer ignorance and out of control spending, like having roast peacock on payday and bread and water six days later. Unnecessary  poverty is sometimes illustrated by uncleanliness created by laziness and two mangy dogs barking in minefield of their calling cards around a garbage bin of empty beer bottles.
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A recent comment on my previous post relating to so called 'Pay Day Loans' suggests there are people out there prepared make a buck out of this poverty via the ignorance factor, and there seems little that can be done to stop morons offering these loans which only tend to accelerate the predicament of these out of control borrowers.
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This scenario is the ideal catalyst for crime, when the impoverished seek to find another source of income to feed their borrowings. Nipping these problems in the bud is difficult when the do gooders are thwarted by the opposite effect of thieving loan sharks.
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Definition: poverty level
Synonyms: bare existence, breadline, hand-to-mouth existence, mere existence, pauperism, poverty trap, subsistence level
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Vest, Back soon..
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The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it.
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History today.
1938, England's Len Hutton scores a then record 364 runs against the Australians at the Surrey Oval. The game ended by England beating Australia by an innings and 579 runs.
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1966. Aboriginal stockmen walk off Lord Vesty's wave hill cattle station, complaining of appalling working conditions.

OK... Back off, it wasn't me.

 

Monday, 20 August 2012

Woolies pulling the wool over again.

Last time a few months back  Woolworth's Australia (Not FW Woolworth of USA & UK) pulled a slick one which they hoped customers would  fall for when they raised the price of a leg of lamb By $3-00 a kilo and then gave a discount of $10-00 on all legs of lamb. Problem was they increased the normal size of the legs of lamb by not slicing off the leg chops which is done by most butchers to sell separately and reduce the leg to a budget size. The ploy  to sell more didn't work out in fact it backfired and they sold less.
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Sunday Aug 19 Woolworth's The so called 'fresh food people' came under fire again". A journo from the Daily Telegraph (My favourite newspaper delivered daily to my door) Announced...
WOOLLIES TO GIVE HIGH LAMB PRICES THE CHOP.
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Now this may only apply in Ritzy double Bay or Point Piper and not on the Central coast where I and lots of nice and also clever people live.
Despite a sharp reduction most , Mid loin Racks and Cutlets at Woollies are still priced above those now being sold in most local butcheries and ALDI , also ALDI are selling Boneless rolled lamb forequarter for a dollar less than Woollies 'Bone In'.
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Remember There is only one success - to be able to live your life in your own way and not give others absurd, maddening claims upon it.
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Vest, Back soon.
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Wed Aug 22. Woolworth's Forequarter chops $8-99 Kilo.Lamb legs $10-79 Kilo.
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Coles my local Aussie supermarket, Legs of lamb, $8-99.Kilo.
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Woolworth's still have the highest mark up for most of their fresh meat products.

Thursday, 16 August 2012

The Ant and the Grasshopper story revised.

Subject: The Ant & the Grasshopper - updated  Sent in By 'JO'.
I love story with a moral -

THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER

This one is a little different .......
Two different versions ......

There are Different Morals

OLD VERSION:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house
and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays
the summer away.

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.
The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

MORAL OF THE OLD STORY:

Be responsible for yourself!


MODERN VERSION:

The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all
summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a
fool and laughs and dances and plays the
summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and
demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well
fed while he is cold and starving.

Channel 7,9, & 10 News, and A Current Affair show up to provide pictures of
the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home

with a table filled with food. The country is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is
allowed to suffer so?

Julia Gillard appears on A Current Affair with the grasshopper and
everybody cries .

The Green Party stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the
news stations film the group singing, We shall overcome.

Green Party Leader Christine Milne condemns the ant and blames The Liberals,
Capitalism and Global warming for the grasshopper's plight.

Wayne Swan exclaims in an interview with TV News that the ant has accrued
wealth off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax
hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

Finally to gain votes to win an election , the Government drafts the
Economic Equity & Anti- Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the
summer.

The ant is fined for failing to consider how his hard work and preparation
has affected the Grasshoppers Mana and, having nothing left to pay his
retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated under the Government Land Repo
Act and given to the grasshopper.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends
finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government
confiscated house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be
the ant´s old house, crumbles around them because the
grasshopper doesn't maintain it.

The ant has disappeared to Vanuatu, never to be seen again.

The grasshopper is found dead in a Drugs related incident, and the
house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of Skinhead spiders
who terrorise the once prosperous and peaceful, neighbourhood.


MORAL OF THE STORY:

Be careful how you vote !


I've sent this to you because I believe that you are an ant.

You may wish to pass this on to other ants, but don't bother sending it
on to any grasshoppers because they wouldn't understand it, anyway.

Wednesday, 15 August 2012

"No it aint V P Day Its V J Day." Aug 15.

Its that time of the year when some of us oldies recall saying 'Thank Gawd for that ,now we can go home" but that didn't happen for most of our crew who would eventually after repairs in Sydney get the ship back to Pompey er Portsmouth March 13 1946 ten months after the war ended in Europe.
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Although the BPF encountered a drop of rougher's occasionally it was not the ocean we had to contend with  but the never ending day in day out clashes with the Japanese Air Force" Yeah I know you heard all that shit before", But some may still be having nightmares about its stark reality - particularly those like myself more exposed to the scenario than others who heard the noise but never saw or became involved.
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Originally called Vee Jay day and still is in the United Kingdom  the title was overturned by Little  baldy Johnny Howard and Co Chicken Hawk non combatant with multiple Gold cards Billy Bunter aka fish net stockinged Dolly Downer.
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As a reminder the enemy was Japan , and the Japanese were not restricted to the the Pacific they had a large presence in the Indian Ocean too I recall the first Japanese plane I saw at Palembang Sumatra Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia)After it was reported I was asked "Are you sure it is an enemy plane" "Yes" I replied , "it has two engines".
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Vest Not Forget.

Sunday, 12 August 2012

Watts Naval Training School.

Goldings Web Photo Gallery
By Frank Cooke ©
photos from Barnardo's archive
26/04/2002
Watts Naval Training School.
North Elmham,Norfolk.
watt's

The Watts Naval Training School was first used in 1903 but was not formally opened until 1906. The building dated back to 1871 when it had been built as a County school for fee paying students. WNTS admission was open to orphan and destitute boys who were between 11 and 14 years of age( Wrong!!! I Vest went there Wed 16 Dec 1936 exactly 10.5 years old because i was brainier than most ,joined Royal Navy  Wed Jan 7 1942 at 15 yrs 5 months and twenty days) who would now live a military-style life and training. The boys were given numbers to identify themselves (Vest was 117) more so than their own names. Their hair was clipped short and they were rigged out in sailors’ uniforms.
In a strict regime which seems terribly harsh by today’s standards, the boys’ lives were now to be governed by bugle calls. The cane was used as a swift punishment for those breaking the rules. The boys’ best kit was stowed away, and their boots and socks were locked up. Apart from on Sunday parades and for church services, they would wear nothing on their feet inside or outside the building from April to October – regardless of the weather!
Their days began at 5.45am. The first hour of the day was reserved for cleaning, sweeping, scrubbing and polishing. Next would come breakfast and then assembly. Classes began at 9.15am and would continue through the day till 4.50pm. The boys would learn seamanship, physical training, gunnery, drill and signals, as well as other lessons.
The evenings were busy too – tea, homework, supper and, at 8pm, the teeth-cleaning ceremony when hundreds of boys lined up for a spoonful of cooking salt with which to scrub and gargle. After another assembly, it was time for prayers and lights out at 9pm. Throughout the night, boys would take turns at sentry duty. It was a tough life and one which hit hard during those first few weeks, but the reports seem to indicate that most boys grew to love their unusual school in the end.( A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS say's Vest)
Watts Naval School prided itself on turning out many a fine young sailor to serve the country during the period covering the two world wars ( yes Vest was part of that child cannon fodder). Dr Barnardo's also had another Nautical Training School, training boys for the Merchant Navy, this was called the Russell Cotes Nautical School.
WNTS housed just under 300 boys. It stood on high ground at North Elmham in Norfolk, about fifteen miles from Norwich, and twelve miles from the sea. The whole estate covered some 54 acres, and was bounded to the west by the river Wensum. A ship's mast stood in front of the building seen in the above photo.
One Watts boys name will stand the test of time, he was a plate steward on the unsinkable R.M.S Titanic for more information click here
The Watts Naval Training School closed in 1949 with most of the boys were transferred to The Russell-Cotes Nautical Training School, Parkstone, Poole in Dorset. In 1950 Watts became an 'ordinary' Dr. Barnardo's home for mixed family groups of children aged three to 15 years. It remained open until 1954.
For more information on Watts Sea School Click here
To read what Dr Thomas Barnardo wrote about Watts Click Here
To view some photos of the Naval Schools. Click here

When was the home built? The home was built in 1871 as a county school. It included a principal's house, a chapel. a laundry. an infirmary cottage, a swimming bath and boat house. This was for fee paying students.
Who lived there? It was built by Mr Ernest H Watts, a local farmer and landowner as a private school to educate gentleman farmers, but was never a financial success.
When was it a Barnardo's home? The school was generously donated to Barnardo's in 190I, In the Dr Barnardo's Homes annual report for that year, it states:
There is a splendid gift by Mr E H Watts of a magnificently appointed building at North Elmham in Norfolk, to be devoted to the purposes of a naval training school. "350 lads can be accommodated", The whole was acquired and presented to the Association by Mr E H Watts, who has also agreed, in conjunction with his son, Mr Fenwick S Watts, to defray the cost of necessary alterations, furnishings and fittings, together amounting to over £13,000. Watts Naval Training School was officially opened on 11th March 1903 by King Edward VII when he was Prince of Wales.
How many children lived there? There was around 300 boys a time at aged 10 to 16 years at Watts during its life as a naval training school.
When did the home close? Watts Naval Training School closed in 1949. The home closed in 1953 and the main buildings were later sold and demolished in 1960, The school house, chapel, captain's house, four cottages, sanatorium, old rectory and gardener's cottage still remain.
What is the home used for today? In the 1960s, a turkey and chicken farm was established on the old school's foundations, For a while, the chapel was used to house pigs, The chapel, gardener's cottage, captain's house, four cottages and old rectory have now been sold, refurbished and turned into private dwellings. Four new houses were built on the site of the old school in 2005/6. During clearance of the site before building started the floors of the school were exposed and a few hundred of the Norfolk Pammets which were throughout the school. These have been set into the paved areas around the house - a reminder of times past!
The new houses are all occupied by young professional families with young children, which has added a new dimension and community to the County School or Watts Navel school.

Did you know: In 1920 The Prince of Wales Sea Training School opened as a Merchant Navy Sea Training Establishment in Dover. They are also recorded as having a school at Limehouse E1. The School in Dover was named after the same Prince of Wales that opened Goldings in 1922. They also had a Sea Training Hostel at Ingham, Stalham, Norfolk. (1940 -1953) but this school was not run by Dr Barnardo's To view the web site click here

I READ with much sadness of the death of Mr Bertram 'Bert' Busby, late of Watts Naval Training School (Guild Messenger summer '98). I called to see him in 1992 at his home, on the 50th anniversary of my time in Watts. My memory of him while I was at Watts was of a very fair and just officer.
One incident we both recalled was when we were to have a visit from a high-ranking officer of the Royal Navy. Preparations had been going on for some weeks before. We were drilled on the parade ground every day for a fortnight, until we could almost carry out all the drill blindfolded. I was a leading hand at the time from Jellicoe division and was on duty with the night officer the very night before the big day.
We were doing our rounds of the quarter deck and dormitories just on daybreak when I spotted some white streamers fluttering from the trees at the side of the parade ground. It turned out to be a dozen or more toilet rolls decorating the fir trees. For the next two hours all hell broke loose but by breakfast time all was calm and on the face of it back to normal. The visit went off very well and the 'big man' from the Navy was most impressed. After the visiting parry had left, full parade was called and the lieutenant ordered the culprits who had seen fit to affix the decorations to take one pace forward in the ranks. Not a move was seen - after the third request, the order came: extra drill for the whole school for one week. We never did find out who did the deed and, as Mr Busby said, maybe just as well!
Our sincere sympathies to Mrs Busby and family.
Basil George, Watts 1941-43

Sidney Asbury continues his story of his time in care. The first part started a Euston Hall:
When I was about 12/13 years old, I went to W.N.T.S. for about three years. I think it was from 1942-1945. That's where I met John Wilcox (or Tank) as we knew him. He was in STURDEE? division and I was in TYRWHITT division (N0257). Mr A. Price if I remember rightly was Lieutenant Price, or 'Jimmy the One'. Bert Busby was the P.T.I. There were two Mr Greens one was Green 'G' because he taught us gunnery and the other was Green's' because he taught seamanship ('Boxing' the compass, steering the ship etc.) Another officer who taught us semaphore signalling etc. was a gent by the name of Sid Pointer. The bandmaster was Mr Joyce? We had a very good band in those days. But I think the "star" of the band was a young man named Trevor Lintott he could really play the bugle. I think he went on to do very well in The Royal Marines. Anyway, I have rambled on a bit, haven't I?
Sidney Asbury
WNTS 1945 - 1948
Sidney had his story published in The Guild Messenger Winter 1992. In answer to Sidney's question No not enough.

*******Hello everyone. My name is Leslie John Bowyer. I am a former student of Watts Naval Training School and my number was 117 I was In six and three companies, my instructors were Fizzy Spain, Killer Stark, Bert Busby and my head master Hugh Wallace Hoskins. My time at WNTS was between 1937 and 1941. at age nearly 79 I still have vivid memories of the school most of which I must truthfully state were not to my liking. Reading various stories of former people at the school, the school had its good points, but these were not reflected by the actual students; whose creature discomforts were at a low point compared to that of the staff, to state the obvious I was rarely happy at WNTS. I having seen better times before my arrival there.
My favourite teachers were Mr Stokes and Mr Phillips who I was more comfortable with. I now live in Australia since leaving the Royal Navy on Pension in the late sixties. Recently I came in possession of a book published by Trafford in Canada titled "Waving Goodbye To A Thousand Flies" The author 'John Leonard Spencer', this person states that he was a student at a school named Halls Naval Academy. I having searched for this school I came up with a blank, it never existed. But wait for it. Reading between the lines and a description of that said Academy, required little persuasion for me to believe it was WNTS. I found the book Wholesomly interesting with few dull moments. I will send a copy of the school description from John Leonard Spencers book "Waving goodbye to a thousand flies" for you to work out for yourself.
Yours faithfully
Leslie John Bowyer
NSW Australia.
Click here to view John Leonard Spencers book "Waving goodbye to a thousand flies"

Saturday, 4 August 2012

History on this day August 4.

!704. The British Royal Navy under Admiral Rooke capture Gibraltar from the Spanish.
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1945. Vest received body wounds .
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1962. At age 36, Vest's family of Wife and Three Sons arrive in Hong Kong. Vest to take up Shore Base posting for 2 years plus.
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1962. Marilyn Monroe 36 is found deceased in her hotel room.
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1914. Britain and loyal colonies declare war on Germany. My hero as a child, Foster Bro Frank was born.
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!971. Vest's Wife and Five Sons arrive in Sunny? Sydney, to become Australian citizens.
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2012. Fat Cat Playboy punter; Porky Jimmy Packer, parts company with 77 pounds (35 Kilo's)of Tummy fat. By eating smaller portions of, Caviar, fillet steak, truffles and and other crap the Hoi Polloi cannot afford.
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2012 Sydney Mayor MS (MARE) Clover Moore, avoids hefty parking fine by  over staying in 2 Min Zone in order to deliver political pamphlets.
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2012. Pie waffling Victorian Labour M P Bill Shorten  abuses Chinese immigrant shop owner regarding a cold meat pie by using the 'F' word. (The forecast is that foul-mouth Billy Shorten  will suddenly become citizen Shorten Shortly after the next Erection Say's Chinese Cafe owner.
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How did your Aug 4 go,  have you remembered some incident either today or in previous years that  come to mind and worth remembering?
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A moment's insight is sometimes worth a life's experience.
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Back soon Vest.

Back again from the jaws of extinction

It is now three days since my recovery from surgery for the dreaded C , I am feeling OK And expect to be around a little longer.


A 'Thank You' for all those well wishers who called. There is a long list somewhere I believe. Still looking.........Er Chris my eldest says';  There is no list, not even a D D you bastard which would have clarified the way people think. So just to let you know I'll be back  soon to stir the bucket or can .FU2
Vest back soon.
Think it more satisfactory to live richly than die rich
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Vale Percy ; my senior Brother in law R I P.  Percy died in the U/K during my stay in Hospital in NSW Aust.... "Percy was a real nice bloke".

Vest Has Left the Building

To advise that Vest (Les Bowyer) passed away this morning. Regards, Chris (Son).