Most motorists have their own anecdotal stories to tell of police cars brazenly flouting the traffic laws for no apparent reason.
Now there is hard evidence that these are not just stories. The revelation that last financial year 1433 police cars were caught breaking the road rules without reason is worryingly high, given there are about 16,000 officers in NSW.
But it should be kept in perspective - the lead-foot officers behind the wheel did not get off without consequence. They had to pay their fines, a combined $345,904, and they lost demerit points too, as would any other motorist. And they were subject to internal investigations by safe driver committees, which is entirely appropriate.
But the behaviour of the minority is unhelpful to the overall objectives of reducing the road toll.
There is already building resentment among some motorists about the punitive measures used in NSW to enforce the road rules. State Government policies have been severe, from double-demerit point weekends to a widening network of fixed-speed cameras. Still to come is the roll-out of 200 more red-light cameras, which will generate thousands of $324 fines.
The NSW Police Force is keen to keep the road toll under 400 this year. This is a goal that deserves widespread community support. However, it is obvious the police hierarchy still has a job ahead convincing their own officers to drive safely and lawfully at all times.
Reckless attitudes to the road rules among a minority of officers serves only to undermine public support and confidence.
LEAD-FOOT PUBLIC SERVANTS.
Traffic fines issued to govt agency cars last year.
NSW POLICE, 1,433.
Ambulance service, NSW, 341.
Energy Australia, 321.
NSW Fire Brigade, 263.
Dept of Community Services, 247.
Rail Corp, 199.
Roads and Traffic Authority, 190.
Dept of Education and Training, 153.
State Transit Authority, 149.
Dept of Corrective Services, 145.
Now for the final Straw.
Police fury at Speeding.
Police have taken a swipe at reckless young drivers after arresting one clocked at 237 km/h in Sydney's west.
His licence was confiscated and he is due to appear in Liverpool Local Court on Jan 15.
"I'm disappointed the safe driving message is not getting through to some young drivers, and they think they can drive at high speed without getting caught," the Chief Superintendent said.
Now click on the book picture.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By J L Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas approx $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
This will be my last post until I return from Gosford Hospital where I shall be having vascular surgery Thurs Dec 18. See you later(hopefully). Vest.
Monday, 15 December 2008
Friday, 12 December 2008
Christmas news from the Australian Capital, and Budgewoi on the NSW Central Coast.
This says it all!!!!
>> CHRISTMAS IN CANBERRA
>>
>> There will be no Nativity Scene in Canberra this year!
>> The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in
>> Australia 's Capital this Christmas season. This isn't for any
religious reasons.
>> Our Govt's reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in the
>> Nation's Capital. And a search for a Virgin continues.
>> There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the
stable.
Oi Kev! When's this Ruddy 'Help the impoverished retailer hand out' gonna show up.
We can't do a Mrs Nicholson 'Spend - Spend - Spend without the loot.
On the home front. Vest, that's me, visited the Gosford hospital today for my pre admission routine checkup, It reminded me of the joining routine when drafted to a new ship or establishment while in the R N, only slight diff was the people were more pleasant at the hospital. I shall be going under the surgeons knife next Thursday, that is all being well and I don't die of fright beforehand.
I hear they are running a book at my local club, The highest odds are, 'I'll not be around for a drink after Friday, so if you love me, waste a dollar on those odds.
Its nearly mid summer in our neck of the woods. Its tiddling down with rain and I am wearing a jumper; a slight difference from Wednesday 37 deg cel and air con going.
A person in the hospital today suggested that it was "Them bloody Muslim Arabs filling up them barrels of oil non stop which is unbalancing the planet earth. I asked him "What planet are you from sport?' He replied "Not funny" and moved to another seat.
Due to the wind chill factor today, our salad today has been moved forward until tomorrow. Today we are having lamb chump chops, mushrooms wrapped in bacon, roast spuds and pumpkin with a variety of seven real garden fresh veggies and gravy
Makes you Vegans drool with envy.
Ah well must get the oven on. feed my sons cats and prepare for the worst in the result of poms V India; resuming at 3pm.
Back soon.
While you are waiting read this.
Now click on the book picture.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
Now as an entertainment bonus, google http://www.familytiez.com/video/gin.htm click on 'Gin the dancing dog'.Now you know me, I hardly ever send a funny or something interesting, but this I had to share - http://www.familytiez.com/video/gin.htm - Enjoy!
>> CHRISTMAS IN CANBERRA
>>
>> There will be no Nativity Scene in Canberra this year!
>> The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in
>> Australia 's Capital this Christmas season. This isn't for any
religious reasons.
>> Our Govt's reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in the
>> Nation's Capital. And a search for a Virgin continues.
>> There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the
stable.
Oi Kev! When's this Ruddy 'Help the impoverished retailer hand out' gonna show up.
We can't do a Mrs Nicholson 'Spend - Spend - Spend without the loot.
On the home front. Vest, that's me, visited the Gosford hospital today for my pre admission routine checkup, It reminded me of the joining routine when drafted to a new ship or establishment while in the R N, only slight diff was the people were more pleasant at the hospital. I shall be going under the surgeons knife next Thursday, that is all being well and I don't die of fright beforehand.
I hear they are running a book at my local club, The highest odds are, 'I'll not be around for a drink after Friday, so if you love me, waste a dollar on those odds.
Its nearly mid summer in our neck of the woods. Its tiddling down with rain and I am wearing a jumper; a slight difference from Wednesday 37 deg cel and air con going.
A person in the hospital today suggested that it was "Them bloody Muslim Arabs filling up them barrels of oil non stop which is unbalancing the planet earth. I asked him "What planet are you from sport?' He replied "Not funny" and moved to another seat.
Due to the wind chill factor today, our salad today has been moved forward until tomorrow. Today we are having lamb chump chops, mushrooms wrapped in bacon, roast spuds and pumpkin with a variety of seven real garden fresh veggies and gravy
Makes you Vegans drool with envy.
Ah well must get the oven on. feed my sons cats and prepare for the worst in the result of poms V India; resuming at 3pm.
Back soon.
While you are waiting read this.
Now click on the book picture.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
Now as an entertainment bonus, google http://www.familytiez.com/video/gin.htm click on 'Gin the dancing dog'.Now you know me, I hardly ever send a funny or something interesting, but this I had to share - http://www.familytiez.com/video/gin.htm - Enjoy!
Thursday, 11 December 2008
Sheik's Vile lesson of Hate
Teach the children - Sheik's vile lesson of hate.
December 11, 2008 12:00am
A GROUP founded by a Muslim extremist who encourages children to kill themselves for Allah plans to build a huge complex in Sydney to teach young people Islam.
In what it says is a world first, the Global Islamic Youth Centre is trying to raise more than $6 million to build a giant "prayer, learning and sporting" facility in Liverpool.
It has already raised $700,000 towards a $1m land purchase.
The organisation says it expects the local Muslim population to almost double to 20,000 in the next decade and notes that a third of the population is under 19.
Education in hate for 'tender hearts'
It also says it wants to attract youth from across Sydney.
The GYIC was founded by Sheik Feiz Mohammad and others in 2000 to "cater for the physical, social, educational and religious needs, especially for the youth and the children, in accordance with the teachings of the Quran".
Sheik Feiz remains the most prominent spiritual leader of the centre, which features a direct email link to him on its home page so students can "seek Islamic knowledge" from him.
However, the Sheik was exposed two years ago for having called on children to sacrifice themselves to Allah, describing Jews as "pigs" and calling non-believers "filth".
He has been linked to convicted terrorist "Jihad" Jack Roche and several other terror suspects.
Locals said the project will divide the community, causing a backlash.
A spokesman for the centre confirmed that the Sheik remained "a figurehead" and that his books and DVDs, which include repeated calls for "jihad martyrdom", would be available at the new facility, which is still at the concept stage.
However, the spokesman said the Sheik, who is thought to be in Lebanon, was no longer in charge of the day-to-day running of the organisation.
"The centre is a youth centre for all those kids out there who are lost," the spokesman said.
"The centre encourages them to try to follow the right path.
"The Global Islamic Youth Centre works and provides information within the bounds of Australian law, not any more, not any less."
Liverpool Residents Action Group president John Anderson said the Sheik's extremist brand of Islam would not be welcome.
"It would have to be (divisive)," he said. "It's quite obvious that this would have a severe backlash from the community here. It would have to create great concern in the area, there's no doubt about that."
Liverpool Council said it was not aware of any development application for the centre, even though its blueprints have been released in a prospectus, accompanied by a virtual tour of the building.
Calling for donations from Muslims, the GIYC states: "Imagine . . . six acres of serene and tranquil landscape; the rustling of trees, the sound of birds, the laughter of toddlers, soccer and tennis balls flying as teenagers play, water splashing in the swimming pool, the sound of children reciting the Quran, the voice of scholars teaching students, and then suddenly silence and everything stops, as the most beautiful and melodious Adhaan calls everyone to prayer . . .
"This is a unique project and a world first for any Muslim organisation to undertake and shows GIYC's ambition to make a difference to the youth of Liverpool."
Students understood to be linked to the centre were posting the Sheik's lectures on YouTube as recently as five days ago.
A set of questions was also put to Sheik Feiz in an email, but he had not responded by last night.
December 11, 2008 12:00am
A GROUP founded by a Muslim extremist who encourages children to kill themselves for Allah plans to build a huge complex in Sydney to teach young people Islam.
In what it says is a world first, the Global Islamic Youth Centre is trying to raise more than $6 million to build a giant "prayer, learning and sporting" facility in Liverpool.
It has already raised $700,000 towards a $1m land purchase.
The organisation says it expects the local Muslim population to almost double to 20,000 in the next decade and notes that a third of the population is under 19.
Education in hate for 'tender hearts'
It also says it wants to attract youth from across Sydney.
The GYIC was founded by Sheik Feiz Mohammad and others in 2000 to "cater for the physical, social, educational and religious needs, especially for the youth and the children, in accordance with the teachings of the Quran".
Sheik Feiz remains the most prominent spiritual leader of the centre, which features a direct email link to him on its home page so students can "seek Islamic knowledge" from him.
However, the Sheik was exposed two years ago for having called on children to sacrifice themselves to Allah, describing Jews as "pigs" and calling non-believers "filth".
He has been linked to convicted terrorist "Jihad" Jack Roche and several other terror suspects.
Locals said the project will divide the community, causing a backlash.
A spokesman for the centre confirmed that the Sheik remained "a figurehead" and that his books and DVDs, which include repeated calls for "jihad martyrdom", would be available at the new facility, which is still at the concept stage.
However, the spokesman said the Sheik, who is thought to be in Lebanon, was no longer in charge of the day-to-day running of the organisation.
"The centre is a youth centre for all those kids out there who are lost," the spokesman said.
"The centre encourages them to try to follow the right path.
"The Global Islamic Youth Centre works and provides information within the bounds of Australian law, not any more, not any less."
Liverpool Residents Action Group president John Anderson said the Sheik's extremist brand of Islam would not be welcome.
"It would have to be (divisive)," he said. "It's quite obvious that this would have a severe backlash from the community here. It would have to create great concern in the area, there's no doubt about that."
Liverpool Council said it was not aware of any development application for the centre, even though its blueprints have been released in a prospectus, accompanied by a virtual tour of the building.
Calling for donations from Muslims, the GIYC states: "Imagine . . . six acres of serene and tranquil landscape; the rustling of trees, the sound of birds, the laughter of toddlers, soccer and tennis balls flying as teenagers play, water splashing in the swimming pool, the sound of children reciting the Quran, the voice of scholars teaching students, and then suddenly silence and everything stops, as the most beautiful and melodious Adhaan calls everyone to prayer . . .
"This is a unique project and a world first for any Muslim organisation to undertake and shows GIYC's ambition to make a difference to the youth of Liverpool."
Students understood to be linked to the centre were posting the Sheik's lectures on YouTube as recently as five days ago.
A set of questions was also put to Sheik Feiz in an email, but he had not responded by last night.
Debunking the Bunker Legend. (part two)
From part one posted 12 7 08 continues----
The paucity of evidence
Without bodily remains, it is impossible to affirm that a person is dead, let alone
determine the manner in which he or she died. At least officially, there is no Hitler corpse
because in 1970, so the Soviets/Russians maintain, the presumptive Hitler remains were
macerated and intermixed with the remains of 10 other persons—
Updated information inserted: Creative Dentistry section will be continued later:
__allegedly Hitler's wife Eva, Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels, his wife Magda, the
Goebbels's six children and General Hans Krebs—and buried in the grounds of a KGB
installation in Magdeburg, East Germany. This was done ostensibly to preclude the
possibility of a burial site developing into a Nazi pilgrimage centre.
This story is an obvious deception, however.
The Soviets hardly lacked the space to store the remains in the USSR, where there was
no danger of a Hitler cult emerging. Its function can only have been to relieve them of the
obligation to ever make the alleged Hitler corpse available for scientific testing.
Today, all the Russians admit to possessing fragments of what they claim to be
Hitler's jawbone and two small pieces of skull.
The skull fragments, one of which is distinguished by a large bullet hole, are sometimes
stated to have been found in the bomb crater together with the other remains initially
assumed to be those of Adolf Hitler; however, it is more usually maintained that they had
been found in Hitler's study inside the Reich Chancellery building (R e i c h s k a n z e l e i) .
Unfortunately, there is no proof that the fragments were found in the Chancellery, let
alone that they came from Hitler. No photographs were taken of the fragments in situ,
while none of the documents included in Hitler's Death sheds any light on their
discovery.
In matters concerning the authentication of the alleged Hitler remains, the Russians have
behaved as inscrutably as their Soviet predecessors. In 1999, a foreign researcher,
Michel Perrier of the Institute of Forensic Science at Lausanne University, was denied
permission to inspect the remains. It is hard to see a plausible reason why the Russians
would do this unless there were a chance of a negative identification. This opens up the
possibility that the skull fragments are fake. We may be looking at a hoax similar to that of
the Piltdown man—a notorious case in which a jawbone discovered in 1912 was subjected
to rigorous testing 40 years later by a research team at the British Museum.
The researchers found that the jawbone was that of a modern ape and had been artificially
stained with potassium dichromate to make it appear ancient.
More than 60 years after Hitler disappeared from history, therefore, the Russians are
obstructing research that would provide a definitive answer to the question of whether the
fragments belonged to the F u e h r e r. As D. Marchetti et al. wrote in 2005:
"The available literature concerning Hitler's cause of death is incomplete…because the
skull bone fragment with a gunshot wound possibly from Hitler's corpse has not been
properly e x a m i n e d .
Since the Russians clearly do not regard Hitler's skull fragments with religious reverence
—we are not talking about the Shroud of Turin here—no other conclusion can be drawn
than that the Russians are afraid of what will be found once the fragments are
subjected to scientific testing.
The best explanation for such fears is that the Russians already know that the fragments
did not come from Hitler. So far they have made no effort to have mitochondrial DNA
(mtDNA) extracted from the skull fragments for comparison with mtDNA extracted
from the corpse of either Hitler's half-sister Paula or his mother Klara or from any of
their living relatives—the process suggested by Marchetti et al. as the only way out of
the present impasse.
The Russians' unwillingness to subject the fragments to mtDNA testing implies that
they already know that the result will only be negative.
The next most reliable kind of evidence—documentary evidence—also sheds no light
on Hitler's fate. Strikingly, no films or photographs exist that would corroborate any
aspect of the official narrative of the Third Reich's last days, least of all the claim
that Hitler committed suicide. Given his towering importance in the Third Reich, it is
difficult to believe that, if Hitler had remained in Berlin until the regime fell,
a comprehensive photographic record would not have been made of his final stand.
Yet there are no known photos or films of Hitler that can securely be dated to April
1 9 4 5.
As for written sources, all we have is an obscure entry dated 30 April 1945 in a
document that is purported to be a diary kept by R e i c h s l e i t e r M a r t i n Bormann
from 1 January to 1 May 1945:
3 0 . 4 . 4 5
Adolf Hitler D.
Eva H. (Hitler)
Not only is it difficult to believe that even in the most cursory entry Bormann would
not at least have recorded the precise time of the F u e h r e r's demise, but we possess
unique testimony that proves the diary to be a fake.
Shortly after the war, pilot Hanna Reitsch, who was in the F u e h r e r b u n k e r for three
days (26–29 April), told American interrogator Robert E. Work that during this period
Martin Bormann had been writing an extremely detailed document which he intended to
preserve for posterity. Work recorded:
"Bormann rarely moved from his writing desk.
He was 'putting down events for future generations'. Every word, every action was
recorded on paper. Often, he would approach someone and gloomily ask about the
exact contents of the Fuehrer's conversation with a person to whom he had just given
an audience. He also meticulously wrote down everything that took place with the
others in the bunker. This document was supposed to be removed from the bunker at
the last moment so that, according to the modest Bormann, it could 'take its place
among the greatest chapters of German history'.
However, the Bormann diary which the Russians subsequently presented to the world
is a paltry affair containing entries that are typically only between one and three short
lines of text. The most substantial entry, that for 27 April, runs to a mere eight lines of text.
Clearly, the diary does not provide a complete narrative of the death throes of the Third Reich.
Although most historians (including David Irving, the self-described apostle of "real history")
accept its authenticity without demur, it can only be a fake.
In summing up , there is no physical evidence nor evidence of a visual or written kind that
would shed any light whatsoever on Hitler's fate.
Eyewitness testimony
The case for the conventional view that Hitler committed suicide and was cremated on
the afternoon of 30 April 1945 therefore depends entirely upon the verbal and written
statements furnished immediately after the war by a small group of captured Nazis, most
of whom were members of the S c h u t z s t a f f e l (SS), who claimed to have observed
these important historical events with their own eyes.
The six most important accounts are those of:
SSO b e r s t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r Harry Mengershausen
SSS t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r Otto Guensche
SS- O b e r g r u p p e n f u e h r e r Johannes ("Hans") Rattenhuber
SS-O b e r s t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r E r i c h Kempka
SS-U n t e r f u e h r e r Hermann Karnau and
SSH a u p t s c h a r f u e h r e r Erich Mansfeld
The first three eyewitnesses, Mengershausen, Guensche and Rattenhuber, all fell into
Soviet hands after Berlin was captured on 2 May 1945. They recounted their respective
versions of Hitler's fate to Soviet authorities between 13 and 20 May 1945. The three
men's accounts were not available to the public until the 2005 publication of the
anthology Hitler's Death.
Although Hitler's valet, SS-S t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r Heinz Linge, was captured at
the same time -- his interrogation statements are not included in Hitler's Death and,
so far as I know, have never been made public.
Given that Linge subsequently emerged as one of the central protagonists in the official
story of Hitler's demise, this fact obviously raises questions about the pretensions of
Hitler's Death to constitute virtually the last word on the subject.
The three accounts can be supplemented by various other accounts given by German
prisoners to the Soviets in May 1945, in particular that given on 7 May by
SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Dr. Helmut Kunz.
Although Dr. Kunz did not profess to know anything pertaining directly to the deaths
of Adolf and Eva Hitler, his statement contains a highly significant account of Eva's last
known c o n v e r s a t i o n.
The other three eyewitnesses, Kempka, Karnau and Mansfeld, were interrogated by the
Americans and the British. Until Hugh Trevor-Roper's The Last Days of Hitler was
published in 1947. The accounts of Kempka and Karnau were the only ones available
to the general public. The other four accounts have subsequently become available,
three as recently as 2005.
This means that it is possible only now to consider the six earliest eyewitness
statements together as an independent body of evidence. Only now is it possible, in
effect, to leave The Last Days of Hitler behind and concern ourselves with the best
available original source material.
Strikingly, the information derived from these six individuals represents the bulk of
the firsthand evidence that would ever become available. Only two of the persons
specifically named by others as having been involved in the final days—
Heinz Linge and R e i c h s j u g e n d l e i t e r Artur Axmann—survived the war and
were able to give their own accounts later.
However, in both cases, the eyewitnesses appear to have been pressured to conform
their testimony to the Trevor-Roper account, which was treated by the Anglo-American
establishment from the very beginning as definitive. None of the other individuals
identified in the six earliest accounts as having been involved—Jansen, Kruge,
Lindloff, Medle, Schaedle, Burgdorf, Krebs, Bormann, Goebbels—survived the war
(so far as we know).
We therefore find ourselves saddled with the task of trying to make sense of one of
modern history's most important events on the basis of a remarkably thin body of
evidence.
The six accounts describe s i m i l a r e v e n t s .
If we compare them, we find that there is general agreement on the following five
points:
(1) a male body was carried from a room in the bunker to a location just outside
the exit door from the bunker;
(2) the male body was wearing black trousers, shoes and socks like those Hitler usually
wore;
(3) at the same time, a female body was carried out of the bunker whose face was
uncovered and was readily identifiable as Eva Hitler;
(4) Heinz Linge carried the body of the male; and
(5) the two bodies were laid down on the ground beside each other, doused with petrol,
cremated and buried together in a bomb crater or ditch situated a very short distance
from the bunker exit door.
As soon as we look at elements of the story other than those listed above, discrepancies
prove to be the rule. If they had been referring to the same event, a u t h e n t i c accounts
ought to have agreed on most details as fully as they agreed on the aforementioned five
points.
It is impossible to distinguish between eyewitnesses who were "telling the truth" and
eyewitnesses who were lying.
In the absence of material or documentary evidence that would serve as a control, any
such distinction is untenable. Indeed, each eyewitness account is as credible as any of
the others.
The approach that has most widely been followed, therefore, is that taken by
Trevor-Roper, which simply involved assimilating all the available accounts into a
narrative of a single event and ignoring or explaining away the details that did not fit
with it. By this means, to give just one example, Trevor-Roper accepted an account
of events which the eyewitness stated had taken place "not later than the 27th of April"
but treated it as if it were a description of an event that a different eyewitness,
Erich Kempka, claimed to have observed on 30 April 1945.
The shortcomings of Trevor-Roper's homogenisation technique are rather obvious,
however. If one accepts the overall reliability of Mansfeld's account to the extent that
one is willing to make use of the information it contains, by what right does one ignore
Mansfeld's statement that he is "positive" that the events he was describing had taken
place "not later than" 27 April?
Trevor-Roper did the same with the eyewitness testimony of Hermann Karnau, who
stated that the events he had observed had taken place on 1 May.
Clearly, one cannot simply cherry-pick the evidence in this way.
Yet it is by this very method that Trevor-Roper assembled the grand narrative of the
fall of the Third Reich which is accepted by most people, including most historians, asessentially correct!
In the following sections, I review the six earliest known
accounts while resisting the obvious temptations to dismiss certain
accounts as wholesale fabrications or resort to the Trevor-Roper
"cherry-picking" strategy. As we shall soon learn, the only way to
make sense of the six accounts is to treat them as authentic accounts
of d i f f e r e n t events. That said, it is not the case that each account
represents a p u r e or u n a d u l t e r a t e d version of a particular
cremation. The accounts of persons who had apparently observed
two or more cremations—above all, Guensche—appear to represent
a c o n f l a t i o n of events remembered from different cremations.
Next part to be continued ... Testimony from Soviet-held eyewitnesses
The paucity of evidence
Without bodily remains, it is impossible to affirm that a person is dead, let alone
determine the manner in which he or she died. At least officially, there is no Hitler corpse
because in 1970, so the Soviets/Russians maintain, the presumptive Hitler remains were
macerated and intermixed with the remains of 10 other persons—
Updated information inserted: Creative Dentistry section will be continued later:
__allegedly Hitler's wife Eva, Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels, his wife Magda, the
Goebbels's six children and General Hans Krebs—and buried in the grounds of a KGB
installation in Magdeburg, East Germany. This was done ostensibly to preclude the
possibility of a burial site developing into a Nazi pilgrimage centre.
This story is an obvious deception, however.
The Soviets hardly lacked the space to store the remains in the USSR, where there was
no danger of a Hitler cult emerging. Its function can only have been to relieve them of the
obligation to ever make the alleged Hitler corpse available for scientific testing.
Today, all the Russians admit to possessing fragments of what they claim to be
Hitler's jawbone and two small pieces of skull.
The skull fragments, one of which is distinguished by a large bullet hole, are sometimes
stated to have been found in the bomb crater together with the other remains initially
assumed to be those of Adolf Hitler; however, it is more usually maintained that they had
been found in Hitler's study inside the Reich Chancellery building (R e i c h s k a n z e l e i) .
Unfortunately, there is no proof that the fragments were found in the Chancellery, let
alone that they came from Hitler. No photographs were taken of the fragments in situ,
while none of the documents included in Hitler's Death sheds any light on their
discovery.
In matters concerning the authentication of the alleged Hitler remains, the Russians have
behaved as inscrutably as their Soviet predecessors. In 1999, a foreign researcher,
Michel Perrier of the Institute of Forensic Science at Lausanne University, was denied
permission to inspect the remains. It is hard to see a plausible reason why the Russians
would do this unless there were a chance of a negative identification. This opens up the
possibility that the skull fragments are fake. We may be looking at a hoax similar to that of
the Piltdown man—a notorious case in which a jawbone discovered in 1912 was subjected
to rigorous testing 40 years later by a research team at the British Museum.
The researchers found that the jawbone was that of a modern ape and had been artificially
stained with potassium dichromate to make it appear ancient.
More than 60 years after Hitler disappeared from history, therefore, the Russians are
obstructing research that would provide a definitive answer to the question of whether the
fragments belonged to the F u e h r e r. As D. Marchetti et al. wrote in 2005:
"The available literature concerning Hitler's cause of death is incomplete…because the
skull bone fragment with a gunshot wound possibly from Hitler's corpse has not been
properly e x a m i n e d .
Since the Russians clearly do not regard Hitler's skull fragments with religious reverence
—we are not talking about the Shroud of Turin here—no other conclusion can be drawn
than that the Russians are afraid of what will be found once the fragments are
subjected to scientific testing.
The best explanation for such fears is that the Russians already know that the fragments
did not come from Hitler. So far they have made no effort to have mitochondrial DNA
(mtDNA) extracted from the skull fragments for comparison with mtDNA extracted
from the corpse of either Hitler's half-sister Paula or his mother Klara or from any of
their living relatives—the process suggested by Marchetti et al. as the only way out of
the present impasse.
The Russians' unwillingness to subject the fragments to mtDNA testing implies that
they already know that the result will only be negative.
The next most reliable kind of evidence—documentary evidence—also sheds no light
on Hitler's fate. Strikingly, no films or photographs exist that would corroborate any
aspect of the official narrative of the Third Reich's last days, least of all the claim
that Hitler committed suicide. Given his towering importance in the Third Reich, it is
difficult to believe that, if Hitler had remained in Berlin until the regime fell,
a comprehensive photographic record would not have been made of his final stand.
Yet there are no known photos or films of Hitler that can securely be dated to April
1 9 4 5.
As for written sources, all we have is an obscure entry dated 30 April 1945 in a
document that is purported to be a diary kept by R e i c h s l e i t e r M a r t i n Bormann
from 1 January to 1 May 1945:
3 0 . 4 . 4 5
Adolf Hitler D.
Eva H. (Hitler)
Not only is it difficult to believe that even in the most cursory entry Bormann would
not at least have recorded the precise time of the F u e h r e r's demise, but we possess
unique testimony that proves the diary to be a fake.
Shortly after the war, pilot Hanna Reitsch, who was in the F u e h r e r b u n k e r for three
days (26–29 April), told American interrogator Robert E. Work that during this period
Martin Bormann had been writing an extremely detailed document which he intended to
preserve for posterity. Work recorded:
"Bormann rarely moved from his writing desk.
He was 'putting down events for future generations'. Every word, every action was
recorded on paper. Often, he would approach someone and gloomily ask about the
exact contents of the Fuehrer's conversation with a person to whom he had just given
an audience. He also meticulously wrote down everything that took place with the
others in the bunker. This document was supposed to be removed from the bunker at
the last moment so that, according to the modest Bormann, it could 'take its place
among the greatest chapters of German history'.
However, the Bormann diary which the Russians subsequently presented to the world
is a paltry affair containing entries that are typically only between one and three short
lines of text. The most substantial entry, that for 27 April, runs to a mere eight lines of text.
Clearly, the diary does not provide a complete narrative of the death throes of the Third Reich.
Although most historians (including David Irving, the self-described apostle of "real history")
accept its authenticity without demur, it can only be a fake.
In summing up , there is no physical evidence nor evidence of a visual or written kind that
would shed any light whatsoever on Hitler's fate.
Eyewitness testimony
The case for the conventional view that Hitler committed suicide and was cremated on
the afternoon of 30 April 1945 therefore depends entirely upon the verbal and written
statements furnished immediately after the war by a small group of captured Nazis, most
of whom were members of the S c h u t z s t a f f e l (SS), who claimed to have observed
these important historical events with their own eyes.
The six most important accounts are those of:
SSO b e r s t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r Harry Mengershausen
SSS t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r Otto Guensche
SS- O b e r g r u p p e n f u e h r e r Johannes ("Hans") Rattenhuber
SS-O b e r s t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r E r i c h Kempka
SS-U n t e r f u e h r e r Hermann Karnau and
SSH a u p t s c h a r f u e h r e r Erich Mansfeld
The first three eyewitnesses, Mengershausen, Guensche and Rattenhuber, all fell into
Soviet hands after Berlin was captured on 2 May 1945. They recounted their respective
versions of Hitler's fate to Soviet authorities between 13 and 20 May 1945. The three
men's accounts were not available to the public until the 2005 publication of the
anthology Hitler's Death.
Although Hitler's valet, SS-S t u r m b a n n f u e h r e r Heinz Linge, was captured at
the same time -- his interrogation statements are not included in Hitler's Death and,
so far as I know, have never been made public.
Given that Linge subsequently emerged as one of the central protagonists in the official
story of Hitler's demise, this fact obviously raises questions about the pretensions of
Hitler's Death to constitute virtually the last word on the subject.
The three accounts can be supplemented by various other accounts given by German
prisoners to the Soviets in May 1945, in particular that given on 7 May by
SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Dr. Helmut Kunz.
Although Dr. Kunz did not profess to know anything pertaining directly to the deaths
of Adolf and Eva Hitler, his statement contains a highly significant account of Eva's last
known c o n v e r s a t i o n.
The other three eyewitnesses, Kempka, Karnau and Mansfeld, were interrogated by the
Americans and the British. Until Hugh Trevor-Roper's The Last Days of Hitler was
published in 1947. The accounts of Kempka and Karnau were the only ones available
to the general public. The other four accounts have subsequently become available,
three as recently as 2005.
This means that it is possible only now to consider the six earliest eyewitness
statements together as an independent body of evidence. Only now is it possible, in
effect, to leave The Last Days of Hitler behind and concern ourselves with the best
available original source material.
Strikingly, the information derived from these six individuals represents the bulk of
the firsthand evidence that would ever become available. Only two of the persons
specifically named by others as having been involved in the final days—
Heinz Linge and R e i c h s j u g e n d l e i t e r Artur Axmann—survived the war and
were able to give their own accounts later.
However, in both cases, the eyewitnesses appear to have been pressured to conform
their testimony to the Trevor-Roper account, which was treated by the Anglo-American
establishment from the very beginning as definitive. None of the other individuals
identified in the six earliest accounts as having been involved—Jansen, Kruge,
Lindloff, Medle, Schaedle, Burgdorf, Krebs, Bormann, Goebbels—survived the war
(so far as we know).
We therefore find ourselves saddled with the task of trying to make sense of one of
modern history's most important events on the basis of a remarkably thin body of
evidence.
The six accounts describe s i m i l a r e v e n t s .
If we compare them, we find that there is general agreement on the following five
points:
(1) a male body was carried from a room in the bunker to a location just outside
the exit door from the bunker;
(2) the male body was wearing black trousers, shoes and socks like those Hitler usually
wore;
(3) at the same time, a female body was carried out of the bunker whose face was
uncovered and was readily identifiable as Eva Hitler;
(4) Heinz Linge carried the body of the male; and
(5) the two bodies were laid down on the ground beside each other, doused with petrol,
cremated and buried together in a bomb crater or ditch situated a very short distance
from the bunker exit door.
As soon as we look at elements of the story other than those listed above, discrepancies
prove to be the rule. If they had been referring to the same event, a u t h e n t i c accounts
ought to have agreed on most details as fully as they agreed on the aforementioned five
points.
It is impossible to distinguish between eyewitnesses who were "telling the truth" and
eyewitnesses who were lying.
In the absence of material or documentary evidence that would serve as a control, any
such distinction is untenable. Indeed, each eyewitness account is as credible as any of
the others.
The approach that has most widely been followed, therefore, is that taken by
Trevor-Roper, which simply involved assimilating all the available accounts into a
narrative of a single event and ignoring or explaining away the details that did not fit
with it. By this means, to give just one example, Trevor-Roper accepted an account
of events which the eyewitness stated had taken place "not later than the 27th of April"
but treated it as if it were a description of an event that a different eyewitness,
Erich Kempka, claimed to have observed on 30 April 1945.
The shortcomings of Trevor-Roper's homogenisation technique are rather obvious,
however. If one accepts the overall reliability of Mansfeld's account to the extent that
one is willing to make use of the information it contains, by what right does one ignore
Mansfeld's statement that he is "positive" that the events he was describing had taken
place "not later than" 27 April?
Trevor-Roper did the same with the eyewitness testimony of Hermann Karnau, who
stated that the events he had observed had taken place on 1 May.
Clearly, one cannot simply cherry-pick the evidence in this way.
Yet it is by this very method that Trevor-Roper assembled the grand narrative of the
fall of the Third Reich which is accepted by most people, including most historians, asessentially correct!
In the following sections, I review the six earliest known
accounts while resisting the obvious temptations to dismiss certain
accounts as wholesale fabrications or resort to the Trevor-Roper
"cherry-picking" strategy. As we shall soon learn, the only way to
make sense of the six accounts is to treat them as authentic accounts
of d i f f e r e n t events. That said, it is not the case that each account
represents a p u r e or u n a d u l t e r a t e d version of a particular
cremation. The accounts of persons who had apparently observed
two or more cremations—above all, Guensche—appear to represent
a c o n f l a t i o n of events remembered from different cremations.
Next part to be continued ... Testimony from Soviet-held eyewitnesses
Tuesday, 9 December 2008
This can happen to Anyone.
Subject: FW: A MUST READ TA. simple stroke detection you could save a life
STROKE:Remember The 1st Three Letters....S..T..R..
A nurse sent this and encouraged me to post it and spread the word. I agree.
If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks. Seriously..
Please read:
STROKE IDENTIFICATION:
During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) .....she said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.
They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening.
Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00 pmIngrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. Some don't die.... they end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.
It only takes a minute to read this....
A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.
RECOGNIZING A STROKE
Remember the '3' steps, STR . Read and Learn!
Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.
Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:
S.... Ask the individual to SMILE.
T..... Ask the person to TALKand SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently, i.e.. It is sunny out today)
R ....Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.
If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call 000 immediately and describe the symptomsto the dispatcher.
New Sign of a Stroke -- Stick out Your Tongue
NOTE: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other,that is also an indication of a stroke..
A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved.
I passed it on.... will you??
Now click on the book picture.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only eight weeks to go for xmas delivery.
Now as an entertainment bonus, google http://www.familietiez.com/video/gin.htm click on 'Gin the dancing dog'.Now you know me, I hardly ever send a funny or something interesting, but this I had to share - http://www.familytiez.com/video/gin.htm - Enjoy!
STROKE:Remember The 1st Three Letters....S..T..R..
A nurse sent this and encouraged me to post it and spread the word. I agree.
If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks. Seriously..
Please read:
STROKE IDENTIFICATION:
During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) .....she said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.
They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening.
Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00 pmIngrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. Some don't die.... they end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.
It only takes a minute to read this....
A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.
RECOGNIZING A STROKE
Remember the '3' steps, STR . Read and Learn!
Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.
Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:
S.... Ask the individual to SMILE.
T..... Ask the person to TALKand SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently, i.e.. It is sunny out today)
R ....Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.
If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call 000 immediately and describe the symptomsto the dispatcher.
New Sign of a Stroke -- Stick out Your Tongue
NOTE: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other,that is also an indication of a stroke..
A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved.
I passed it on.... will you??
Now click on the book picture.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only eight weeks to go for xmas delivery.
Now as an entertainment bonus, google http://www.familietiez.com/video/gin.htm click on 'Gin the dancing dog'.Now you know me, I hardly ever send a funny or something interesting, but this I had to share - http://www.familytiez.com/video/gin.htm - Enjoy!
Sunday, 7 December 2008
Bloggers Beware
Hi,
Did you know the Government is proposing an internet censorship scheme that goes further than any other democracy in the world?
I've just signed a petition to prevent the scheme that will make the internet up to 87% slower, more expensive, accidentally block up to one in 12 legitimate sites, will miss the vast majority of inappropriate content and is very easily sidestepped. The government of the day may add any ‘unwanted’ site to a secret blacklist under the scheme.
Our Government should be doing all in its power to take Australia into the 21st century economy, and to protect our children. This proposed internet censorship does neither. Can you join me and take action on the net today to save the net?
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet/442
Thanks!
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'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
Prevous customers, thank you for your order, Vest.
Did you know the Government is proposing an internet censorship scheme that goes further than any other democracy in the world?
I've just signed a petition to prevent the scheme that will make the internet up to 87% slower, more expensive, accidentally block up to one in 12 legitimate sites, will miss the vast majority of inappropriate content and is very easily sidestepped. The government of the day may add any ‘unwanted’ site to a secret blacklist under the scheme.
Our Government should be doing all in its power to take Australia into the 21st century economy, and to protect our children. This proposed internet censorship does neither. Can you join me and take action on the net today to save the net?
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet/442
Thanks!
------------------------------------------
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
Prevous customers, thank you for your order, Vest.
Tuesday, 2 December 2008
Dragons, Hearts and Disappearing Snakes. Oh and Skulls Too.
December 02, 2008 12:00am
FIRST they were the permanent mark of the working class and then celebrities made them cool. But now it seems our love of tattoos is over.
Most Australians aged between 18 and 70, believe body art is a big turn-off.
More than half believe tattoos on the opposite sex make them less attractive.
And it seems women are more forgiving than men.
A surprising high percentage of men find tattoos on women unattractive, while a large percentage of women think that tattoos are not attractive on men.
I would be turned off ANGELINA JOLIE AND HER TATTOOS for example(if the opportunity came about)
Just who is getting their body permanently marked is changing, with tattoos beginning to appeal to a different type of person.
Once only seen on the working class, tattoos are now more liked by higher income earners, Mainly those with less responsibilities. Those seeking long term commitment would be advised to avoid these Gilded lilies and larrikins.
About 5 per cent of lower income earners think tattoos on the opposite sex are attractive compared with about 10 per cent for people earning more than they are worth.
More recently, rather than requesting the usual skulls, dragons and crosses, or the cliche of the name of a loved one, they request duplicates of star tattoos.
Over the last 10 or 20 years the quality of art has improved, there is a better product that appeals to higher tastes, mainly bored stiff loonies who fail to realise the cost of divorcing your Tatts will be tenfold the cost of getting hitched to them in the first place.
Thinking of tattooing as a career? It seems there are many opportunities to set up a tatts business, Providing you are fully paid up and able to sustain a receding income simply for the love of your job.
The recent global recession is growing weeds over the luxury fields of wantonness and greed and the Tattooists are going to the wall in large numbers I am happy to say.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------2nd Post.
Thought for the day: An Indian Angel from MUMBAI (Bombay).
Everyone has a guardian angel so it is said, and for Three Australians caught in the Mumbai Massacre, their angel turned out to be an Indian Gentleman Martin d'Costa,26, whose quick thinking saw the trio to safety.
We owe this man a medal, at the very least.
It might be nicer if the Dept of Foreign Affairs did something about his current housing situation.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
Prevous customers, thank you for your order, Vest.
FIRST they were the permanent mark of the working class and then celebrities made them cool. But now it seems our love of tattoos is over.
Most Australians aged between 18 and 70, believe body art is a big turn-off.
More than half believe tattoos on the opposite sex make them less attractive.
And it seems women are more forgiving than men.
A surprising high percentage of men find tattoos on women unattractive, while a large percentage of women think that tattoos are not attractive on men.
I would be turned off ANGELINA JOLIE AND HER TATTOOS for example(if the opportunity came about)
Just who is getting their body permanently marked is changing, with tattoos beginning to appeal to a different type of person.
Once only seen on the working class, tattoos are now more liked by higher income earners, Mainly those with less responsibilities. Those seeking long term commitment would be advised to avoid these Gilded lilies and larrikins.
About 5 per cent of lower income earners think tattoos on the opposite sex are attractive compared with about 10 per cent for people earning more than they are worth.
More recently, rather than requesting the usual skulls, dragons and crosses, or the cliche of the name of a loved one, they request duplicates of star tattoos.
Over the last 10 or 20 years the quality of art has improved, there is a better product that appeals to higher tastes, mainly bored stiff loonies who fail to realise the cost of divorcing your Tatts will be tenfold the cost of getting hitched to them in the first place.
Thinking of tattooing as a career? It seems there are many opportunities to set up a tatts business, Providing you are fully paid up and able to sustain a receding income simply for the love of your job.
The recent global recession is growing weeds over the luxury fields of wantonness and greed and the Tattooists are going to the wall in large numbers I am happy to say.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------2nd Post.
Thought for the day: An Indian Angel from MUMBAI (Bombay).
Everyone has a guardian angel so it is said, and for Three Australians caught in the Mumbai Massacre, their angel turned out to be an Indian Gentleman Martin d'Costa,26, whose quick thinking saw the trio to safety.
We owe this man a medal, at the very least.
It might be nicer if the Dept of Foreign Affairs did something about his current housing situation.
'Waving Goodbye to a Thousand Flies'. By JL Spencer.
Click the Book Pic at top right for Purchase info. Vest has received more books from the publisher, and more will arrive before Xmas, Email me for a Quote for a signed copy, AUSTRALIAN READERS $26..00. Overseas aprox $29..00 - $31..00 only one week to go for xmas delivery.
Prevous customers, thank you for your order, Vest.
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